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You know what? I try to be really accepting and not put my own beliefs above anyone else's. I really do. I make a concerted effort to remind myself that all thoughts are valid, and I don't judge people for believing in things I don't believe in or for not believing in things that I do believe in. For this precise reason, bigoted atheists really piss me the fuck off. I'm not talking about people who just don't believe in God and aren't pushy at me about it. Those people are lovely. I'm talking about people who refuse to even accept that those of us who do believe in God have brains.

I'm not talking about people like Tim Minchin, who poke fun at Christianity. I can laugh at myself as easily as the next man. I quite like him, actually. I'm talking about people who are fucking douchebags about it, and get all high and mighty about their atheism and how they must be smarter than me or more enlightened than me. That is fucking bullshit. Narrowing your mind to accept only scientific absolutes and refusing to accept that you might have any more to learn or thinking that you even have the power to comprehend everything in the entire universe? That is shutting yourself into a little dark room and refusing to accept any visitors. That is forcing ignorance on yourself.

Of course one of the ignorant beliefs forced on yourself in that situation is the belief that everyone who believes in any kind of deity must be exactly the same as everyone ELSE who believes in any kind of deity. That is frankly just ridiculous. There are many different kinds of people in this world, man. Even assuming two people from the same sect of the same religion must be identical is ludicrous.

In short, stop fucking ragging on me for believing in God. It makes you look like a douchebag.

Leerie (an Episcopalian)

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Date: 2009-04-03 08:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moondarri.livejournal.com
yep. to this all. nobody's more right about the world than anyone else. we've all just got to agree to disagree & not go shitting all over each other's freedom, from both sides.

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Date: 2009-04-04 12:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] leeflower.livejournal.com
word, word, word.

I like the science. I really do. I think people that try to keep science down because it doesn't fit into their neatly-wrapped worldview are pathetic and afraid and holding the world back.

But just because I believe in God doesn't make me a knuckle-dragging young-earth creationist with no critical thinking skills. I don't claim my belief in God is scientific. If it were science, it wouldn't require belief. I'm not suggesting that people be forced to learn my religious beliefs at school. I'm just over here, doing my thing, not keeping anybody down. The pot shots about how I must be some kind of moron for, um, agreeing with Humanists on almost everything but the God thing? Not classy.

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Date: 2009-04-04 12:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pernickety.livejournal.com
I never used to think people talking about belief were annoying, until I stopped believing. It's way easier to tolerate people who agree with you.

... what I'm trying to say is that probably nobody wants to be annoying, but in a discussion that will never be definitively settled either side will get on the other's nerves pretty quick. :)

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